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Thommerfield
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Posted: 07-16-2008 14:14 |
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When the classic force don't works I change it in touch force with this out it works always. If you don't know the touch force write me via private message.
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cosmicplay
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Posted: 07-17-2008 01:47 |
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I have tested this and it works:
You can increase the hits of the classic force by having the spectator pick one card beforehand. Let's say you let him go for a free selection. They may be picky on the first one, but won't be picky for the second one.
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Fantasia
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Posted: 07-20-2008 09:39 |
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My two cents on card forcing....
The idea behind forcing is to make the spectator believe they have free choice while they do not realize that there are controlled circumstances.
I use forces in variation to what "I" believe the trick requires for the best effect. To me each trick may or may not require a certain type force to get the best effect. The delay force can be good for one type of trick but horrible for another. But if used right it can be very effective. The riffle force may be good for another various type of trick or card effect but not as effective as it would be for the delay force.
I guess all in all what I mean is that all forces can be good, if the one performing performs it right with the right type of trick and with the right time.
If a force does not work for you, then try a different type of card force. Experimentation and live performances can and usually does give the best results. Don't stick to one type of force, play around with the variations, see what works best for you and the type of trick you are performing.
But in conclusion, each card effect may or may not require a certain need for a certain type of force for the best effect. Don't be limited to a certain force because it is good. Always vary your forces especially for the same crowd. That way it keeps them guessing on how you did the effect.
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Fantasia
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Posted: 07-20-2008 09:51 |
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I should revise my previous post. The best method for forcing a card is none. Let me explain if you will. First off as previously mentioned the spectator should have no idea that they were "forced" a card. One method for forcing a particular card may not work as well for another trick. Of course there may be all around forces like the slip force, or cull. But if you limit yourself to one type of force then you limit your magic. Just do what you are comfortable with in performance with that type of force. If you need variation in forces that is fine. Try them all, but do not limit yourself to one type of force because you think it is best. Do the type of force that is best for the type of trick required to get the best audience reaction.
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Thommerfield
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Posted: 07-21-2008 09:04 |
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I think that the best technique for forcing is totally independent from the trick indeed more the forcing is good more the game becomes impossible… When the spectator tries to understand the trick will try to remember all the magic trick and if the force is weak the spectator will understand also that the card has been forced and even understands exactly how it works (sees cut force or deeper cut force) and therefore he will understand the entire trick. If instead there are not doubts that the card has been free chosen (you see classic force or my version of dribble force) then the trick becomes a miracle... Then the best technique for me improves the effect.
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