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cosmicplay Wizard

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Posted: 12-31-2008 17:32 |
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Paulo wrote: He laughed and said "Well you shouldn't have let me see it".
He was right.
My first reaction when I watched that clip was that it was not her fault that she busted him (though both of the interviewers couldn't seem to be quiet for more than about 2 seconds which was incredibly annoying)...it was his.
Paul
I couldn't agree more with that. This woman actually guessed a few things correctly: "Where did the bottle come from?.... from you jacket".... "is it the same one?"... "You just got rid of one...." Even if those guesses would be wrong (they are not in this case), she clearly has solutions to what she sees.
It is my believe that there is a BIG difference for laypeople in having the following impressions about a magician:
- He sucked!
- I saw him do something, but he was good.
- I have no clue how he did that. He didn't do anything! That was totally impossible.
I do not think many magicians belong to that 3rd category. Understandably it takes magic of a very high quality to be in there. However, I also think most magicians do not strive for 'no clue'. They are happy with a reaction. This I think is rather sad.
I myself certainly don't belonging to that 3rd category, but I think I strive to be part of it. It is so nice when someone comes to me and says "I did not see a thing!" and they have that look of wonder in their face. It gives me the feeling I gave them something great at that moment and motivates me to continue the long journey to strong magic...
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Sponge Marvel STAFF

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Posted: 12-31-2008 23:56 |
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| I didn't realise until I read the later posts that his book was written for a lay audience with an interest in learning magic, I just assumed it was a magicians only book... my bad. It now makes sense why he was mentioning on this show.
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GlennLawrence Conjuror

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Posted: 01-02-2009 17:16 |
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cosmicplay wrote: GlennLawrence wrote:
EVERY effect in the book to make sure that these were tricks that the lay public could learn and perform. So I'm guessing not a lot of knuckle busters in there. But you still have to make the effort and spend the money to buy the book
Glenn, Are you saying that the professional magician should only do knuckle busters? Some of my best effects are pretty self working actually. And I don't coNonsider a double lift a knuckle buster, though it is a fundamental move in card magic. I just hope my laypeople won't have read his book!
And buying a book in a bookshop doesn't take effort at all. In the past people had to do real effort to learn any fundamental moves.
No, I am not saying that pros should only do knuckle busters. Like you, some of my favorites are "self-working" although I must say I hate that term because if it was really self working you wouldn't need a magician to perform it, and you still need presentation. My observation was more along the lines of the fact that as a book targeted toward lay persons it would be stuff that would be easy to learn.
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Posted: 01-03-2009 22:07 |
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Regardless, we live at a time in which fundamental magic secrets are accessible to laypeople, whether on Youtube, tv, or in a book at the local bookstore. The result is that fundamental moves indeed do get popularized. It is for instance not unusual anymore to encounter a layperson with knowledge of the double lift.
Perhaps we can address the question: How do we deal with exposure?
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Posted: 01-04-2009 13:08 |
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I doubt exposure can be dealt with in this day and age: there's no way exposure videos, books or shows will ever be banned, no matter how hard magicians try.
It's up to the magicians to keep reinventing their art.
You can look at magic as 'being a step ahead' all the time. Not only during a routine should we take this to heart, but also in developing new effects or using old ones.
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