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feher
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 Posted: 03-08-2008 02:10
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Hi guys its me again, I've been thinking what we could do to get more paricipation on the site. I tried doing a a competition with silks coins, TT, and sponge balls while that went off good and we had some great routine come out of it. I wanted more.........

So here goes challenge #2.

I see alot of card tricks on the site but never really a whole routine with a Begining middle and end.  So since everbody loves the cards lets put together a card routines that incorprates more then just one trick. For example my Lost-N-Found routine.

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I used a serise of tricks and combined them into alittle routine. Is this a finished routine no just something I was messing with and never pursued.

So thats what I suggest.

Put together a routine with a beginning middle and end. Post the vid then post a link here and explain why you did what you did.

Lets see where this goes. We might get into some good conversations over this.

Please let me know if your interested in doing this.

Tim

 

doggylego
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 Posted: 03-08-2008 03:41
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Couldn't get the link you provided to work Tim, I'm going to try adding my own.

I hope it works as you have a heap of videos there mate.

http://www.magicvideodepot.com/main/members/action/viewvideo/7434/Lost_N_Found/

PS: Are I able to use my Nintendo DS in the video with the cards?

PPS: Are I able to use Henrys old card shark mate Spadesy in the video too?

Regards Bret.

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 Posted: 03-08-2008 04:35
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Yeah - I'll sure to be up for a Henry duo act. I need to sharpen up my card sharking skills anyhow. Cheers fellas! ;)

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 Posted: 03-08-2008 04:42
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Ok Tim, basically what confuses me is the vocabulary you choose to use. You want a routine that is comprised of more than one trick. The problem is that different people have different definitions of what a routine is. From what I understand, you are asking for one of the following.

A. A routine, comprising of one or several effects with cards

B. A routine comprising of several effects

C. An Act, comprising of several card tricks or routines, each of which may have one or several effects.


I think you are suggesting we do C. but I'm not certain.

Furthermore I have a few additional questions/suggestions.

-Can you give us a time reference? Are you looking for a 5-6 minute video or a 15-20 minute video?

-I know I was the biggest proponent of 'no comments', but in light of the last challenge, I think it might be good to do a 180 there and try to insist as much as possible on viewer feedback.

- In fact maybe the participating members could upload a video, and that video is discussed by any and all who wish to participate for like, a week. The next week we add a new video and we discuss that.

-What might be even cooler is if we keep using the same routine for everyone, we see how everyone would approach the same sequence and learn from that. Ya?

-Could the next challenge be a bit more 'specific'? What I mean is, first we did '3 spongeballs', then we did '4 coins, spongeballs and a silk' and now we're doing 'cards'. It just seems a little vague to me is all. I'd like more hurdles, more fences.

                Feel free to ignore any of these opinions as I am particularly irritable today.

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 Posted: 03-08-2008 07:45
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doggylego wrote: http://www.magicvideodepot.com/main/members/action/viewvideo/7434/Lost_N_Found/


Just remember everyone, when linking to videos, make sure you use the link found under the Embed tab (located right under the video screen). The link, quoted above, will require non-logged in members to sign in, and will not allow non-members to see the video.

Here is the direct video link:

http://www.magicvideodepot.com/main/action/viewvideo/7434/Lost_N_Found/

DWood
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 Posted: 03-08-2008 17:35
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I am in on this, when does it need to be turned in?(date) I will be happy to play. Have a good one. Don

feher
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 Posted: 03-08-2008 18:46
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Sorry for the confussion....... This is open until we say otherwise. I want everyone to talk about it right from the start. Saying this that means your first attempt might not be the end result. I'm hopeing in the end everyone that partisapes will have a routine that is solid from start to finish.

The only restriction is that it has to have a begining a middle and a end, also needs to be atleat two tricks combine into a routine.

I feel a trick is just that one trick your done go onto the next thing, but a routine is a serise of tricks combine to flow from one to another to make a routine.

I want to talk as we do this so Aramis talk away my frined.

Combine two or more tricks(effects) into one another to make a routine.

Oh yea to make it easier for us only combine cards at this time no other area of magic just cards.

can be close-up, stage, parlor,

Tim

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 Posted: 03-08-2008 19:49
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So we can do a card manipulation routine for the competition?

feher
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 Posted: 03-08-2008 20:14
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wcmagician wrote: So we can do a card manipulation routine for the competition?

First let me say this is NOT a Compatition...... This is a chance for us to put together a complete routine not just a single trick. Hoppfully from everybodys comments and suggestions on your routine you'll be able to make a solid piece of magic for your self.

Yes you could do manipulation

Tim

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 Posted: 03-09-2008 00:48
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I'm up for this one Tim!

I propose that we should do 3 tricks - one opener, one middle, and one closer, just to keep things simple.

How long should it be? Is there a time limit that we have to prescribe to?

How will we be judged? What criteria is there to follow?

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 Posted: 03-09-2008 03:19
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It's a good thing Jennings won't be involved or it'd be a short competition...

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0GkaaFWkWlk

Last edited on 03-09-2008 03:20 by erlandish

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 Posted: 03-09-2008 03:46
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Tim :
Can the tricks be the same effect? I doubt you want to see ACRs, but let's say I do a card to box as my first effect, then as my follow through, another card to box trick?

I'm also curious what you mean by "Your routine must have a beginning, a middle and an end."

I can't really imagine how a routine couldn't have a beginning. Likewise, it's pretty obvious that the routine has to end sometime. Whatever part is in between the beginning and the end would have to be the middle.

 

feher
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 Posted: 03-09-2008 17:15
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erlandish wrote: It's a good thing Jennings won't be involved or it'd be a short competition...

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0GkaaFWkWlk


Erland....

So are you saying that none of us can compete with Jennings ????????

If so thats not fair......there are alot of good card people on here still, I'm not one of them but they are here still..........

That routine reminded me of  John Cornelius Fism Act.

While Jennings is really good with the cards I think we have others on the site that can do just as good if not better.

Erland are you going to do this ?????

Tim

feher
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 Posted: 03-09-2008 17:22
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Ok here we go...

Come up with a card routine that use more then just one trick. So you might pick a trick that at the end sets you up for the next trick and so on until you have a reasonable ending.  NO ACR'S I repeat NO ACR'S. They don't count.

I want patter the whole package. Perform it like if someone is there with you. or better yet do it for someone.

Post the vid link it here and please explain your thought process behind your routine.

Be prepared to do it again because through conversations with others we might come up with a better way to present it ....or not.

Your first attempt might not be your last.........

When doing this please bring your own personallity into the routine. Lets see how you would perform for others not just the camera.

I hope that will clear some things up...if not I'll try it again....lol

Tim

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 Posted: 03-09-2008 17:24
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THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION !!!!



 



Just trying to make us more creative with our magic....



Tim

Last edited on 03-09-2008 17:24 by feher


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