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pousin1975 Magician

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Posted: 05-13-2007 16:24 |
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Iv'e been using the common false transfer whenever im doing the coin bite routine. Is there any better swich i can use for this effect ( like a switch that has a retention of vission to it)? False transfger is fine but it never work if specs are burning their eyes on my hands. Please name me the move and where can i find it ???
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Posted: 05-13-2007 16:33 |
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pousin1975 wrote:
False transfer is fine but it never work if specs are burning their eyes on my hands
Pousin1975,
Then you simply need to work on your false transfer because if you're doing it well, it shouldn't flash or it shouldn't be suspicious.
If you don't really have source you can buy :
Coin Magic Made Easy by David Roth
M.
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spikey032 Magician

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Posted: 05-16-2007 20:20 |
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| hey, im working on some of my own sleeving methods and one of them is a simple coin switch, but me telling you this is useless as im not allowed to expose. But hopefully im going to start to write another book about sleeving, which ill make available
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Practis Conjuror

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Posted: 05-16-2007 21:40 |
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| You could just try the french drop as a switch if you want an easy one or you could try reading the J.B. Bobo's Modern Coin magic. It has loads of switches.
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godhand101 Wizard

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Posted: 07-26-2007 22:08 |
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i completely understand your concern. You don't want to perform a move that looks like a move. My suggestion would be to perform a switch at the very tips of the fingers that looks like you've done nothing. I'll give you 4 sources:
Michael Ammars Cigarette Through Coin found in his book The Magic Of Michael Ammar
Garrett Thomas' Cigarette Through Coin found on his Any Questions Video/DVD
2 moves of mine
Richard Sanders Visi-bill move applied to coins I use in my Hellbound Spellbounds Inbred 4th Cousin Routine
My True Fingertip Shuttle Pass as performed in My Spectators Visible Coins Across routine on La Famiglia DVD
here's a great start, but i'm sure you'll find other moves that you can use to switch the gimmick out easily. But you're completely right....PLEASE don't be cheap and use a regular old shuttle pass.....be more elegant.....
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THAHUSTLER Conjuror

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Posted: 07-29-2007 09:57 |
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| Shuttle pass for the win.
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Grey_Pomello Conjuror

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Posted: 07-30-2007 02:14 |
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| Shuttle Pass is what I use. I have seen some nice sleeving done in a coin bite routine though.
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bigskilly111 Magician

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Posted: 07-30-2007 05:50 |
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| shuttle pass for the win rofl , i would also recomend getting j.b. bobo's book it has everything you should ever need !!!!!
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THAHUSTLER Conjuror

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Posted: 07-30-2007 06:10 |
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Lol im actually serious like i think it is the most natural move you could use. Its just like nothing, people wont be like hmm did he do something because its just like not a move. lol.
I say go for whats easy, natural, deceptive and what suits you and your style. Shuttle pass fits that exactly.
Have Fun
-Joseph
p.s. Learn to execute the move properly, the shuttle pass shouldnt even look like or feeeel like a move.Last edited on 07-30-2007 06:11 by THAHUSTLER
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bigskilly111 Magician

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Posted: 07-30-2007 17:29 |
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i agree the shuttle pass done right is a classic it is even the birth of the utility S i think, can it get any better !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bri3172 Magician

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Posted: 08-03-2007 16:02 |
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| try using gregory wilson' sylvester pitch. i use it pretty much every time i switch a coin. it can be found on his "on the spot" dvd.
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godhand101 Wizard

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Posted: 08-04-2007 00:48 |
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I hear alot of guys suggesting a shuttle pass. And this IS a great move. However, in the context of a routine where there is great scrutiny on the coin in question, you don't want a move that looks like a move, makes the spectator feel as if they have been misdirected in any way, OR require swift motions to accomplish.
Think about what you're audience is seeing rather than the method for a moment. You borrow a coin from a spectator that you hold at your fingertips. You reach in your pocket and remove a pen/cigarette. With NO extra motion, you proceed to penetrate the coin with said object. With that image in mind, you haven't any reason to make the coin switch hands. Sure you could argue that you switch hands as you reach for the object to penetrate the coin. Unfortunately, anyone who knows anything about economy of motion would then argue that the shuttle pass would be inferior to the moves i've mentioned earlier.
Study David Williamson's routine, Michael Ammars and then Garrett Thomas'. Then get rid of the shuttle pass......
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magicmansayers Conjuror

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Posted: 08-05-2007 02:17 |
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Eric,
I agree with the way your thinking,
BUT and this is a big But i think a lot of people on mvd are to harsh on the way they look at a routine,
By this i mean they are looking at the moves instead of the routine, as a magician your not looking at a routine to see magic your looking to see what moves are used to accomplish the routine,which is a shame but a consequence you pay for being a magician
In my experiance a spectator would never say "you moved my coin from one hand to the other then you bite my coin"
This is something that isnt going to happen full stop if your routine is strong and your misdirection is on time they wont be burning your hands at the point you make the switch.
So in conclusion to my ranting i think a shuttle pass would work in a bitten coin routine
All the best
Chris
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wickd_waze Magician

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Posted: 03-21-2008 08:13 |
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| just get over your fear and do ur thing. trust me theyll think its the same coin as long as the borowed coin is out of site. i usually keep both coins in the same hand. I works for me.
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Posted: 03-21-2008 16:39 |
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Dumb questions (partially because I don't know if the original poster is here or not)... What exactly is the motivation for the transfer? Are there moves or displays in there to imply both hands are empty before heading into the routine? If you imagine the effect in your mind, as if you were a real magician who didn't need sleights, are you putting, taking or tossing?
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